TMZ Sports – Streaming Live From The Newsroom! 10/1/25

It's Lucas. Good luck, guys. Now we're talking. Welcome to TMZ Sports Live stream. I'm Edward Lewis. This is Lucas Whitman. And uh we're here as we always are in the TMZ newsroom about to bring you an amazing show. We're going to kick things off with a pair of goats streaming with a pair of goat streamers. And I'll explain what that means. Yeah, I would love to know what that means. Well, not not goats like literal goats. I'm talking goats. Speaking of goats, the new goat in Cleveland, Dylan Gabriel, getting the start for the Browns. Um, but there's another quarterback in that room who is getting a lot of headlines today based on his reaction to it all or maybe a lack of.

And our last story doesn't have Well, I guess it kind of does with goats if you consider Kevin Durant a goat. Uh, Kevin Durant. Is everyone a goat? I mean, he's he's one of the goats. Can we talk about that? There can only be one goat. That's Jordan. There's legends, superstars, stars, notable figures. Kevin Durant had some dating rumors dispelled, I guess you could say. We'll get into that as well. Absolutely. Great show today. Yeah. And and goats. Not goats.

Why? Why Michael Badrock thinks there should be multiple girls? There be multiple goats. Who's the greatest of all time, Mike? In what sport? He's going to say Lawrence Taylor. Okay. Okay. Let's go. Let's go. Can you say basketball, football, baseball? You can have in those three goats, but one sport. In those three sports, you could have an offensive go quarterback. You just said you can only have one go. That it's only one goat. Only one go. There is one ultimate goal. The one ultimate goat in in basketball is Michael Jordan. Okay. Correct. Yeah, I agree.

And like, okay, fine. I'll give you if you want to call Tom Brady the NFL greatest of all time. I'm good. Yeah, definitely. But Lawrence Taylor is the greatest defensive player. You can't do that. It has to be around, dude. Like, come on. After Sunday night, Michael Parson push push Den. One player. He's right there. If I've got to choose one player, then go Tom. Go Tom Brady. Tom Brady and football. Okay. Baseball. Baseball. Oh god. So hard. I mean, that's hard. You do Babe Ruth. I would do Babe Ruth. To me, here's the thing. Like you can look at like look at Barry Bonds and and some of his incredible offensive seasons. Babe Ruth was literally hitting more home runs by himself than entire teams were. He was playing against plumbers. No, no, that's what everybody else was relative to the players he was playing against. He was I hear what you're trying to say. You know what I'm saying? If that was the case now, let's let's just if he was playing I mean the case now that's like that's such a hard one cuz it's if you're putting Babe Ruth now he's not he might not hit him all of course Jackie Robinson man from now the rest of the league might look like.

We don't know where this thing's headed. You got to go for during the era. You can't compare players from 1930 to players in 2025. It's not the same thing. Pittsburgh bad team, no power hitting. They hit 117 home runs this season as a team. Imagine a single player hitting more than an entire team. Again, it's it's it's Babe Ruth's the best baseball player of all time in my mind. And then what's the last sport we're missing? Hockey.

Uh hockey. Soccer. Who knows? Who cares? Soccer. You got the answer. Figure skating. Yeah. Archery go. Archer. Archery. I I think Yeah. Wayne Gretzky. Yeah. Greg Wayne Gretzky. Pro wrestling was Mojo. Mojoy and pro wrestling. How many NASCAR? Jeff Gordon. I don't know. Gordon. Who is NASCAR? You don't know NASCAR? I don't know. I don't know too many. F1, you know. Yeah. But Jeff Gordon Hamilton. Thank you. Hamilton. I mean, he's got seven world championships. I think I think Lewis put Michael Schumacher in there, but yeah. Yeah, you can't scoff at Lewis Hamilton.

Anyone but Versappen for me. Greatest Yeah, Versappen is How about Versappen though with um but I mean as soon as his car he's not winning any the greatest of all time, man, in basketball football. You see this though that that's right. I mean rac because they are actually the greatest of all time. It shouldn't be as as much of a discussion. Jordan and Brady it's it's it's just that it's that simple. I feel like he doesn't love racing F1 right now. No, I think he just likes racing but he's not Yeah, I don't think he like cares. It'll be interesting to see for Steen in in 5 years.

Is is he still racing? I feel like he won't be. I feel like he's like I mean obviously he's getting into different forms of racing now too. But I think he just likes to race. I think he just loves racing but not necessarily F1 cuz it's like right now I think his like obviously Red Bull is not at their peak performance and he's not winning races. He's definitely not going to probably contend for a world champ. I mean he'll contend but he won't win a world championship probably for the next two or three years cuz McLaren will probably it is their So it's going to be like I just feel like I could see him retiring or stepping away for a little bit um then coming back once the team gets a better car or something. Mojo the driver wants to know who your goat I think he's he's we lost Mojo for a second Mojo you there Mojo Mojo's gone you ask him who his goat wrestler baby kick me out the chat Mojo the chat wants to know your goat wrestler you have two seconds to decide at least they didn't ask me for my mount wrestmore cuz that question gets asked every five seconds yeah you don't even get to choose four you got to choose just one the the wrestler I hear about oh I have to say because who would say ultimate Hulk? Hulk.

Hulk. Oh, it has to be. It has to be because I think so. I have to look at who the business would not have survived without. When the Ultimate Warrior beat Hulk, I was I was in tears. That's my favorite match of all time. Really? Well, that shows you how much people care about it, right? Warrior. Warrior was my favorite. Yeah. Oh god, that what a what an awesome era. I think you got to throw Logan Paul in the conversation. LP. No, but I went to war with Edward all day yesterday. It might be uh Lucas. Lucas today. He loves Logan. Not even out the box. Logan Paul might not be here if not for Hulk Hogan. Sure. Did uh Did Logan Paul send you that and sign it? No. He wishes. Heated it and everything like I I looked up after though. I didn't know how many they sold and on eBay they were selling for like 300 bucks. Oh, dang. Richard Petty is is without a doubt the greatest NASCAR driver. Oh, Richard Petty. Yeah. See, now that I'm thinking about 200 total wins. Racing is like a hard one cuz I feel like it's Well, it's like so much depending on your car, too, right? It's that, but I also feel like you could say the GOAT conversation for racing could be like I techn it's a technical sport, right? So, I feel like being a good driver, like you said, like I feel like if the car isn't that great, it's like whatever, but if you're like the greatest driver of all time, that's a different thing cuz then you for like your car if you got a really bad car cuz you have like Art Senna who was, you know, legendary.

Schumacher obviously. Um, gosh, what was the other? I think it's just like Americans were not Nika. Yeah, Americans were they're so much more into the sport now because of the Netflix show. I think Formula One got the Netflix show has been huge. That's how I got in on it. Well, it's the same thing with I mean that show got a ton of people into it. Um I think like they've done their their documentaries are awesome. Like Full Swing um for golf was really good. Oh yeah, those things really help. I mean it helps make those like kind of smaller, you know, cuz like a lot of people aren't watching a golf tournament. A lot of people aren't watching waking up at 3:00 a.m. to watch one. So it makes it way more accessible for people. You know, like I like the that quarterback show and all that, but the NFL doesn't need to do that. No, it's like I I already feel like I know more about I could scroll on my phone for an hour and know more about Patrick Williams personal life than I need to see of him on a on a documentary, you know? I actually I I didn't think about that until just you're completely right.

I don't think I need to see more of No. And like I don't I don't mind it. I don't watch it, but it has had a huge impact. We've we have we've had NASCAR drivers in here and we've asked them and I think they have tried to do shows. They just have not caught on like the Formula One show. I think it's just I I wish which is curious because I I think there's there's definitely drama there. Yeah, cuz I mean the the Formula One Yeah. Like in you know the crowd stuff about it all like cuz that's like the whole Formula 1 thing is like the rivalry that kind of stuff that definitely exists. I think they just would need to produce it, right? I agree. I know. I I think it would be a hit. I that's such an accessible form of racing or you know relatively accessible form of racing for people because not everybody in the US there's three American circuits and those those F1 tickets are so insanely they're more expensive to go to the on races here than in Europe I think for some of them.

Yeah, I'm still financially recovering. Which one did you get? He's financially ruined from buying one. I paid close to 2000. He did the old buy high sell low. That was a uh pennies. probably the worst street circuit in the calendar. Wait, Lucas, more details on this, please. Sorry, we need you to detail this further for the street.

Um, so Miami Grand Prix, I was actually going to go to Oh, was Miami. Um, you didn't buy tickets till I ended up selling those. I lost a couple hundred on that. Um, and then Vegas Grand Prix, you know, pre-sale was going nuts. Everyone was getting their hands on them because they wanted to go to the first ever Vegas Grand Prix. Um, as we got closer to the event, ticket prices were plummeting and I ultimately lost like $850 a ticket. I had two tickets. Dang. No, I had four tickets. Was able to get rid of two of them.

My friend sold them, but yeah. Wow. I mean, whatever. I mean, that was You got to do that with Super Bowl tickets, man. That's where you make big money. I'm usually good with that, especially um I mean the Travis Scott Jordan 1's that I sold for close to $1,000. Yeah, you don't always lose money. I used to resell a ton of shoes in high school. It's a it's g it's like gambling about selling those. Yeah, I think about it all the time. Wait, which ones did you have? The the very first Travis Scott Jordans. I actually have a few pairs of Jordans that I've been told are worth a lot of money. Really? Mojo, show the screen. The problem is they're size 16. So that might be I mean there's a marketable Yeah. Some NBA players looking for those shoes. That That's true. Apparently they're extremely rare. Vasanti Shenko gave them to me. Oh, cool. Because we were training partners and he saw what I had on my feet and he felt horrible for me and brought me shoes.

I remember Vanti Senko one time in the locker room. Yeah, I was going to say, do you know why he's famous? I do know why he is famous and rightfully so. God love him and he's been blessed and yeah Vanti Shenko keep that towel on brother went on the show he goat talk he was in see you in that conversation infamous moment is that in the goat the goat moments of all time you know one of the great it was that was a a goat locker room moment that's for sure so what are we starting with the streamers verse the goats, right? You're doing a walk stream streamers and the goats. Yeah, let's do the walk. Goat streamers vers goat athletes. You're going to go to Edward first. So, you'll walk to Edward. Okay. Then to Lucas, then to Mojo. Great. Wow. Great. Finish this thing. You want to read over our post? It's um everything's good.

Yeah, if you want to post it. Okay. So, so Tom with I show Speed first. I show Speed ended his 30-day live stream. So, yeah. What I was confused by, which I'm no longer confused by, uh, this is not necessarily related to the 30-day tour across America. Oh, is that right? The show with Brady is a Speed Goes Pro series. It's like the initial episode of that. Gotcha. Okay. I was curious. I was like, why is he Cuz remember last night he did the thing in in LA and this took place in New York, but this was previously filmed. Okay. So, it's like so welcome to TMZ Sports. I show Speed had or um so two of the biggest streamers in the world are linking up with two of the greatest athletes in the world. Uh, yeah. Like, you know, Tom Brady and I show Speed.

LeBron James, Kaisenat, just kick to me. We'll start with I show speed. Yeah, we'll we'll start uh we'll start with I show speed. Yeah. And then the the shot we have is him doing the 40 with Tom and Dan, right? Dan Quinn. Got it. Okay. So, we're tossing to that and then we Lucas will go and uh either you and I will toss to you or I will toss to Kai with LeBron getting the haircut. Cool. And then well, if Mojo react to these guys hanging out with Tom Brady and LeBron. Cool. Then we'll talk about, you know, if they're the goats. Then we'll talk about the goats. Yeah. Okay. You going the walk over here? Yeah, I think we'll do the same way, Keith.

Thanks, Rob. Ah, okay. What's this thing called? Move Shannon's chair in a little bit. I show speed. Danny went to the uh game in Dublin, the Steelers game. Oh, hell yeah. How was that? Yeah, he said it was amazing. He said it was awesome, dude. Was the whole city on fire for that or was it just the whole stadium? He can't hear you Mojo. Was the whole city on fire? Were people excited in Dublin? Oh, yeah. Everyone I saw every jersey that I saw Christian McCaffrey Panther jersey one of those in here. Yeah, he said they were really excited. Mojo and he also I was asking Danny earlier. you said that like they actually seemed to like know what was going on as far as the game. They understood it. They were like living and dying it sounds like with every play. So, were they confined to the stadium or with like the outside like he saw everyone's jersey like you know Christian McCaffrey Stanford jerseys out there and he said, "Yeah, the people seem really into it." That's what I thought.

Like I I didn't like the idea and I was like, you know, it's it's an American game and nobody outside of America cares about football. But I think we've seen that that's not the case necessarily and that Danny's experience in Ireland shows it. I think you've seen it in Wembley and there's about to be a game this weekend in uh in London. So, oh boy, a Super Bowl, by the way, has come. There's going to be a Super Bowl at You guys want to send me to London to go cover the game? Yeah, right. I'll go with you. Oh, that one. I think me out for all the international games. I'll go do the thing on Boots on the Ground. Right. I'm the mobile unit with this new model of the live show anyway.

Put me on the road. You are You were uh in Europe not too long ago too, right? Uh I was in Dublin in March actually. Oh, you were in Dublin too, right? But in Italy, too, but maybe that was a little bit. That was last year. Okay. When I uh I told Canelo to take that last fight. I was I was looking at Laith's uh Le's dependence package, his literal package.

Um, we're gonna lose in the grocery store yesterday, right? There's two, bro. Yeah, you did. Yep. Okay, just tell me and we'll just I'll just uh audible there. How long is it there? Two days. Three days. No. Okay. Welcome to TMC Sports. Babcock here. LeBron James and Tom Brady got together with two of the biggest streamers in the world. This was absolutely awesome. Now, they weren't together. They were separate. LeBron James, I'm I'm sorry. Tom Brady was with I Show Speed and LeBron James hooked up with Kaiat. and these guys. And if you didn't believe that that streamers are some of the biggest stars in their own right right now, then just look at the quality of athletes who are jumping on these guys streams and just wanting to be associated with them. Now, we'll get to LeBron here in a second. He did something pretty cool with with Kai. LeBron is is not just a basketball player, is apparently a barber uh in his own right.

But first, I show Speed is is an absolutely amazing athlete. And I know we've talked about this and some of the things he does, but the guy's incredible. He proved it yet again. Uh if you weren't familiar, he's starting a new series called Speed Goes Pro. Okay. And the uh debut episode featured him with Tom Brady, Danny Amandola, and S Gardner. And as part of this, he ran a 40 yard dash that not only will blow you away, but it blew Tom Brady away. Take a look. I'm gonna get this one more shot. So, let's see what I can run.

Come on. No thinking. Let it go. Come on. This is the one right here. Come on. Let's go. Come on, get out. Come on. Come on. Oh, he did it. What was it? 4.49. 449. Wow. Come on. How'd you do it? He did it. Got a little minute. Got pissed off. Way to go, baby. Hey, you pushing. Way to go. That is remarkable to me that he ran a sub4540. And there was even another part of this draw. I don't want to give too much away. You can watch it on his YouTube channel, but he did a vertical jump with Tom Brady and hit 40 in on that. So 449 40inch vertical. If you know anything about speed, he's a little guy too, man. So it is very impressive what he did and and like you saw in that video, Tom was super impressed. Yeah. I I mean that's I was trying to look just to see like, you know, comparable professional athletes like Odell Beckham for instance, he ran a 443. It's it's it's almost an identical time. I show Speed is a streamer.

This guy, I mean, he's truly is is a fantastic He is a worldclass athlete. I mean, to walk out there, you know, basically out of nowhere in your in your workout clothes and to run that that 40, you got to realize everyone you watch at the combine, everyone you watch at their proday, they have been training and training and training with coaches, with speed coaches to do that 40 yard dash, for him to just walk out there like it's nothing and do a and run a 449 is amazing. He he I cannot say enough good things about how amazing of an athlete I show speed is.

Now that was really cool to have Tom Brady out there. Obviously I think most people think Tom Brady's the greatest football player ever and to see him out there with speed. Very cool. Not the only GOAT with a GOAT level streamer because LeBron James, he was with Kaisenette. Yes, Kaisenette at the same time uh in the month of September uh has been doing the Mafia thon 3. um in route in route to um a million subscribers on Twitch and um as part of his grand finale, he had King James uh visit his mansion and yes, he did hit a million streams for subscribers.

So that means the hair his signature long locks gone and at the hands of LeBron James who uh took some scissors and cut his hair and went to town. And it it's really funny because uh LeBron also came with uh with Zuri but then also had gifts. He gave him uh luxury AP watch. So his LeBron's daughter pointing to my Apple Watch for some reason. Not the same. A little bit Yeah. cheaper. But I am sure LeBron's daughter was super excited to meet Kai. That's This is This is dad being cool. Um, so he actually cut his hair after after By the way, Kai has been growing those beautiful dreadlocks for nine years.

Take a look. Don't mess me up, bro. Flip it around. Yeah. There you go. And then go as far back as you can. Boom. My head. Last one. All right. Go. Last one. Last one, guys. Last one. [Applause] Oh my gosh. He really cut it off. Uh, again, he's been growing that hair for almost a decade. He looks good with the with the dreads gone, too. But I I kind of like it better the other way. It'll take some getting used to. But I mean, just to see LeBron going in and like getting involved in this stream, his house just goes to show that these streamers are the new late night talk show hosts. They are the new celebrities. They they do have that massive draw. I mean, yes, LeBron James, but then also Mariah Carey, Kim Kardashian. I mean, you can go on those people doing Kaisen stream. It's like people are probably reaching out to Kai to get involved beyond that. And I think that's a great point about the late night host. I mean, I'm not trying to pick on Jimmy Kimmel after everything that's happened, but look at any of those guys.

I mean, Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, I mean, you name the Late Show host, they are not doing a fraction of the audience that someone like Kaiso Speed is doing. They they are it the the model's different and they are the guys now. And that's why you had LeBron James and Tom Brady there, Mojo. It was really, it's crazy to see how how big these guys and how influential these streamers have become. Yeah, man. I mean, hey, there's a reason we're getting all these celebrity super fights and celebrities popping up left and right and WWE rings and all of these places. It's exclusively because of the audience. That is the thing they care the most about.

Secondly, these guys know how to perform and entertain. Uh Kai getting his haircut. All I can say is that one day in the hopefully not so distant future, I'll be able to weigh in on that one, but I can't for now. So, I got to take this back to speed for a second, Baba, because this was legitimately impressive. I mean, everything that this guy does athletically is a headline.

So him having this new show makes all the sense in the world. I mean I feel like this dude just pops up everywhere in every single sport. So first of all running a 449 40 as someone who had to train for a while to run that 40. I can tell you that his technique was not great. Yeah. Especially out of the blocks. But still putting up numbers like that's insane. And that just shows you just the raw athleticism that this guy has that he can just go out there, do something wrong, and still crush it. Uh, as for the 40, that's actually even more impressive to me. Babcock, as you know, I love my plyometrics. I got the all-time defensive line record at the the University of Maryland for the vertical jump. What was it? So, I'm I'm very familiar with this particular one. And this guy jumping a 40 puts you in a very, very small group, a very elite company. Not a lot of guys are jumping 40s. This is a 20-year-old kid. I can't imagine he spent too much time preparing and training for this exact event.

But these are just crazy numbers. I mean, put him up against the guys at the combine and it's competitive. Yeah, I think in many cases even better than those guys. I have no doubt. And and I don't know if he can catch a football. I don't know how he he is at the actual games. Athleticism wise though, he is every bit as good as as any of your professional your favorite professional athletes out there, period.

I think he made the right choice though because the amount of money that proathletes make is is great. What I show speed is doing though far far better. Super impressive. Mojo, what was the uh uh record? 365. I 310. WA. That is God, dude. And you were you said 50 remarkable 225. Uh, that was not when I was in college. I did 36 in college. Even still, though, that's incredible. Do you remember your 42? Uh, 478. Ah, that is So, here here's the thing. Um, with Kai promising to get a haircut at a million subscribers on Twitch, um, I think and we have people watching from all different platforms. So, I think we should just focus on one. I think if we get a hundred people watching all at once on YouTube that Ed will shave his head. I need a haircut badly. Ed spent about two to three minutes running his hands through his hair this morning. I have so much hair that in order to get it all gelled, I had to really get in there. All right, boys. Let me just go ahead and uh put this put this down.

There you go. See, if you had to run gel through your hair, how long would it take you? It's a lot of hair. Probably two days, right? I'll be ready for tomorrow's show. As people who don't have a lot of hair here, what the heck are you saying? I'm just saying you I have more hair than you. So, you think you have more hair than me? I think I know I have more than you.

You sure? Let's push your Let's push your hair back. You You Let's push it back. You got Bojo. Speaking of hair, I'm What should I What should I get for the hair? What should I get for the haircut? Oh, what are you thinking? Get the Babcock. The You don't want that. I think we should all just for Halloween dress up as Babcock and have just jeans. Baby Saja. What? I'm dressing up as Baby Saja from a certain movie that hit Netflix and took the world by storm this past summer. Oh, that's the Halloween costume. I'm trying to get a couple more boys. I hate Halloween. I hate Halloween. Says the guy who goes all out every year because I won.

I won money. I won $500. He's trying to win. He did Dana White one time. Yeah, that was pretty good. Dana White was pretty good. I didn't win there. We came I think he came in second place though then. Yeah, I won with Olivia and Bobby. Um but yeah, I hate Halloween. I love it because let me tell you here. So here's what we got to do. We like we've got to change. I don't want to get into the whole reason why, but we've got to change like right after we tape the show in the morning, the TMZ on TV show. So you put this whole costume on and you got to change into clothes, right? You're in this thing for 90 minutes and then you've got to put the costume on. It sucks. So you hate the whole holiday because of that. I have an idea though. I don't like it. I don't like the kids. I like to keep my own candy. I don't want to give candy away.

In the comments, drop what Babcock should be for Halloween. We'll narrow it down. We'll do a poll and if someone has on our socials and say I will be whatever if there's something good at the hands of the viewers this year. That way you don't have to worry about save. I don't want I'm not going to I'm not going to dress up as Trump. Baron Baron we're stilts but just about all the pictures you take for it. It's just like from here we stop. What are the top three best Halloween costumes you've ever seen in the office? It's a good question. Keith always our camera guy Keith always has good costumes if they're a little offensive but they're good.

They have to tell him every year like you can't do the Yeah, I'm coming. Well, examples, please. I'm coming right this year though. I think he was R. Kelly one year. I was R. Kelly. They wouldn't let me be Diddy last year. Let me be Diddy last year. We already have one for Babcock when uh Van. Oh, that was that was troubling. That was troubling. Oh, yeah. Let's go, guy. I got to do something at 50 minutes after the I don't know. I don't remember anybody being like, "Blow your face off costume here before." No, there's not.

That's not good. They've been good, but good ones. You got no goats. You got no It's gonna be a treat. Yeah. Keith says he's got something that he's he's working on. Apparently, it it it requires him to take his shirt off, though, and he's just not in that type of shape right now. Hey, hey, hey, I'm rocking, bro.

You got time. You got a month. Yeah, Mojo, I'm thinking we're more than a month out, though. I got 30 days. I got 30 days. Wear the high-waisted underwear that you know, you know, comes up to your belly button or slightly above. You're good. That's what he needs. Factor in a weight belt or some sort of uh fanny pack, right? Something. just cover it up. I need the Mojo fitness plan. Well, speaking of fitness and athletes, we put a poll up earlier today talking about our story of LeBron and LeBron and Kai and then Speed and um and Tom Brady. Okay. We asked who the greater athlete was in their individual sport. Who do you think who is the greater athlete in their individual sport? So Brady or LeBron? Just in this context cuz obviously Jordan, you know, being the GOAT of basketball, but in this context, I'm going to say they said LeBron.

Okay. I believe it's Tom, but I'm going to say they said LeBron. I'm going to go 64% LeBron. Okay. So, they actually said 69% Tom Brady. Oh, wow. See, you didn't ask me. That's exactly what I was about to say. Mojo, you got to you got to throw your Okay, Mojo, on this one. Wow. Which uh which streamer do you think is more popular according to the audience? Kaisen or I show speed? Speed. Speed. What do you think the number is? Probably um you know if I'm really breaking this down statistically I'd probably say 69. Yeah. Uh maybe a little bit more than Brady. So like 69 um speed. Okay. Actually Kaisenat won according to the audience 61% of the vote. Um I show speed 39%. Okay, that makes sense. He's got more he's got more he's got a lot more Instagram followers, but people say that his like commenters in the stream said that a big thing is that he just has a lot of good guests.

He is more of a entertainer as an Yeah, he's out doing his own thing is obviously has these guests, but you know, Sat sitting in his trying to say, I think so. And somebody somebody here definitely didn't tell me this. This is my own answer. I think Kai has a little bit of an older audience, like a little bit of a more mature audience. He's the number one streamer, right? After subathon, that was my definitely my take, not Lucas's really. Is he he's considered number one though, right? He He's He's the only one with a million sub subs on Twitch right now after Mafiaon three.

But that was a whole other ordeal. These I'm interested. I should have thought that because the LeBron I think Tom is is more widely accepted as the GOAT as opposed to the I thought when we framed the question as who's the better athlete in their sport. I would have thought I mean LeBron I think is like is one of the most dominant athletes you've ever seen in the NBA. Yeah. Absolutely. And Brady I don't think anybody is saying that Brady is the most athletic quarterback any you've ever seen, you know. Um I think you got to go by championships though too. I think as well Brady's won more. Yeah. Yeah. It's a fact. It's hard to argue with harder too to win football. All right, Babcock. Speaking of of goats, you get to talk to Lucas about his goat quarterback. Okay, so big move in Cleveland. Got a quarterback change. Okay. All right, let's do it. Sound bites. We have two. Okay. Shador's reaction to Dylan Gabriel get starter and that's obviously a good talking point.

And then after that, Dylan Gabriel still leaning on Joe Flacco and also Deshaawn Watson. Okay. All right. So, I'll see. Maybe I'll toss to them and Lucas and I will just talk in between. Okay, let's do it, Steve. Welcome back to TMZ Sports. It's a big change in Cleveland. There is a new starting quarterback as Joe Flacco is headed to the bench. Shor Sanders. It is not Shidor Sanders not starting. Instead, it will be Dylan Gabriel. Of course, Dylan Gabriel was the team's third round draft pick two rounds before Shidor Sanders was ultimately drafted.

Now, Lucas, Lucas is a a huge Browns fan, has been a Browns fan forever, of course. Uh, and I want to get your take on the move, too. But first things first, I think a lot of people were questioning what would Shador's reaction be to the news. Well, he was in the locker room. Of course, the media flocked to his locker to ask him to get his reaction on the move.

And well, um, he was a man of of no words. Watch this. What are your thoughts just remaining at that third quarterback? vocally. Anything to say about So, but there it was. He he mined it. He didn't answer and that that was it. He never said anything. He never gave his opinion ultimately. It's not like he made the joke and then he gave some sort of thoughtful response. It it didn't happen. That was his answer. I am sure Lucas, you don't have to be an expert uh to realize that he is probably not happy. He wants to play, which I understand. I could do without that though, right? And it's a direct response to me um to what Rex Ryan was saying earlier this week that he needs to shut his mouth and focus on the playbook and watch the footage and everything, right? However, the Rex thing got a ton of attention. Now, Shadore needs to understand though, like don't stoop to the media's level, like be higher than that.

All the criticism, you know, no one is immune to that. So, this is not just solely focused on Shadore and he's the first athlete in the universe to ever deal with something like this, but um you know, if you want to be playful about it, if you want to make a statement and show that it's not affecting you like that and you're leaning into it, then do that for the first answer and then get back to doing your job.

And part of that is to speak to reporters and share, you know, how you feel and take the higher road. Personally on the actual decision, I think it's a week late. Um, and I think we saw the most that we were going to get out of Joe Flacco. And if you watched preeason, you know that Dylan Gabriel was um a bit ahead of Shadore in what we could do with the offense. And I I've been saying, you know, the defense is elite and we just have to get that offense together. And you know, Dylan Gabriel, he doesn't do anything fantastic, but he does a lot of things pretty well um that I think that we can uh stay above water for a little bit.

And would you be surprised if ultimately both not this week but if both guys end up playing this season. I would think that was going to happen barring Dylan Gabriel lighting up the world. And I mean I think Shador Sanders is going to play but reality is that they clearly Shador Sanders was available in the third round and they went with Dylan Gabriel and then two rounds later when he was still there they they took a flyer on Shadore.

I I I think anyone who thinks that this is about the Browns and they want to punish Shadore, they dislike Shadore, like they're those guys are all fighting for their lives. The Browns are one and three. Their careers are on the line here. There are NFL head coaching jobs don't grow on trees. They want to win. And if if those coaches who see Shador Sanders every single day in practice, if they felt like he gave them a better chance to win than Dylan Gabriel, you're crazy. You are absolutely crazy if you think that they are doing anything besides playing the guy that they think gives them the best shot to win. It's just it's it's a it's a crazy and it's just just frankly a stupid take. I'm sorry if uh if if that's where you're going with this.

Now uh for Dylan Gabriel, his side of things here, obviously everyone's going to talk about Chador, but he's not the guy starting the game. Dylan Gabriel is gonna have to play this weekend. He spoke about um Joe Flacco and the the fact despite the fact that Joe is headed to the bench, he is uh still been a good teammate, still helping the young kid play as he prepares to make his very first NFL start. I appreciate about Joe is just it's not his job to be a mentor, you know, it's his job to be a great quarterback. And I think just his openness to answer questions, you know, it's my job to ask questions, right? And and uh search for those answers. But having guys like, you know, him, Deshawn, uh, in the room, I think guys that just have played a bunch of ball. So, I appreciate him for that.

And, you know, he's a captain on this team. He's still a huge piece of what we do. Um, and we look to him for for a lot of things because he's been through it a bunch. So, I think, uh, there's a ton of respect there for me and and a guy I definitely look up to. And, um, you know, it's going to be important to have that, you know, going into this week. I look and I think and he talks about this week you Lucas you guys are playing the if Lucas on the team the Browns play the Vikings in London uh Sunday morning. Yes. Um early game early game. Um not everyone's like that. That's cool that Joe Flacco is like that. You know it's it can't be easy for a guy who he sees the end of his career.

It's it's right there. He doesn't have that much time to play football left. He's won a Super Bowl. It it I I give him a lot of credit for for for mentoring the young quarterback. You look at go to New York, Russell Wilson, it's it's not a job or it's not a role that Russell Wilson is at all interested in. And I think by most accounts, it's not something that he is doing with Jackson Dart who was also again a rookie quarterback who just made his first start. So it's no guarantee that the older vet, the WY vet is going to help. I think it's really cool here despite maybe a little bit of the friction that exists between Shador Sanders and Dylan Gabriel. I think there probably is some friction there. I think it's very cool to see Joe Flacco stepping in there and uh it's going to be fun to watch if nothing else. Yeah, maybe not for Lucas. Yeah, I mean going into the season all I said was this is going to be entertaining and I'm going to have fun with it and and lean into the circus especially after drafting Shador.

I wonder Yeah. I mean you I mean you know we all knew this was coming or especially if they didn't win they this this was going to happen. I I just I I wish you would have just stood there and answered the question. Say you support him as your teammate. You want to play like nobody faults him for wanting to play. Everyone wants to play. Anyone want that? I would not I would be upset with him if he didn't want to play. But I think if he says anything, he's going to get criticized. So that's probably it's best that he doesn't say anything because don't take that literally actually not. But I'm just saying I'm trying to think about like if I was think he's been criticized so much like anything he says they take his criticism.

I think he's not been I think in many cases he's not been treated fairly. I think you know everyone like laughing at him at the draft like it's why because of who his dad is and because Dion is like a boisterous guy like I I don't know. I feel like in in many cases Shador has not been treated fairly but he's a fifth round draft pick and I get why they're playing the guy they drafted before him.

I mean, I think in this context, there was definitely a right thing to say and a wrong thing to do and I think he did the wrong thing just because and I actually am a fan of his like I think like you know living Colorado Boulder like whatever like all my friends love him but I think in this situation like he like said if you you could have said nothing but you could have said nothing in the way of being like hey I don't really have any opinions right now I just want to get back to practice and go to work like and I feel like that's a hard thing for the media to twist on you but I care about this team.

I want to win. I wish him the best. I I to the to the media. I'll be honest, guys. I didn't hate it. I thought it was kind of funny. Straight up. You know, I I I And then, by the way, I think some people are saying that. You're not the only person I've seen with that opinion. Mojo. A lot of people say it's funny. I think that's just kind of been his thing, his gimmick, right? No matter good, bad situation. I mean, we saw when he uh got pulled over and got a little bit which he handled that well. He handled that well. I thought he did. He handles everything with a laugh and a smile. I mean, I don't think I've seen anything of him recently without a smile on his face.

So, I mean, I don't think anyone's looking at him to be the guy right now. Clearly not. They They didn't give him the starting job. So, until then, he's going to kind of sit back and be this way. I mean, probably that's going to hold him back a little bit from eventually getting that job. But, as long as he gets in the line when he's actually got the ball in his hands, I think that's all the fans are going to care about. I mean, I know it's kind of immature, but at least I laughed at it. So, there's that. The problem is is now all the the people are talking about in Cleveland is this, you know, and that's like the exact reason nobody wanted them in the first place. I don't want my third string quarterback creating my memes in the middle of of an important game week. So it's so that's that's what I you know it's obviously very very different situation but that's why I've always said that Colin Kaepernick was never going to get signed by anybody because nobody wants a guy who is not playing to be talked about because if if you're talking about something that's not the game then your your attention is distracted, right? Your focus is not entirely there.

So it's Yeah, I know. I I agree. But I do think too he is definitely going to play this year. I think he'll play by I'm I'm going to I'm going to give two takes right now and I think he will there's a chance the Minnesota Vikings are the sixth ranked defense in the NFL. I their secondary has been lighting it up picking off quarterbacks. I want to say that there is a chance you could see Shadur Sanders play the four at least sometime in in this game fourth quarter. I think there's mark my words. I hope he I want to see the game. I think we'll see him play and then I think he will get a start nod by week eight.

Really? I that's that's my prediction. They're going to use him. He sells tickets. All right. Well, stay tuned. Oh my gosh. He would sell He sells tickets. People talk about him all the time. Even if he sucks every That would be like the biggest story in the in the NFL news cycle for however long if if Shadur Sanders started an NFL game this year. Yeah, that that would be huge. You do that when you're uh one and 10, which I mean is feasible. That's Sorry, Lucas.

All right. go out. Okay, let's do this cuz I'm going to have to run. Let's do Liz Camage here with everybody and we'll say goodbye. Just three minutes. You'll talk to us. Three minutes. And this is uh So, there have been rumors that they have been dating, correct? They were seen together at a Drake concert recently. Okay. Our our uh uh former NBA star, right? Okay. They were recently seen together at former WNBA star.

WNBA former WNBA star Liz Cambage. Is is former WNBA star Liz Cambage dating Kevin Durant? That's the question. They were recently seen together at a Drake concert. A lot of people started to speculate. Oh, we saw her out in New York City. Okay, let's do it. LAX. How do I say New York City? Saw her. We saw her not in New York City, but LAX. Okay, let's do it. Are Kevin Durant and former WNBA star Liz Cambig dating? That's the question that a lot of fans have been asking recently after they saw the two hoopers at a Drake concert together. Again, the kind of the chatter began.

People started to speculate that they might be an item. Well, we went right to the source here. We uh saw Liz at LAX recently and we asked her that very question. Hey, are you guys dating? Are you and Kevin Durant a thing? Are are you is it official or are you just enjoying each other's company? What a laugh. That's what people are asking because you think I'm going to hard launch a relationship shooting a jump shot at a at at a no at a Drake concert.

You think I'm going to be like this is my man everyone and shoot a jump shot next to him. Okay. Oh yeah. Yeah. at that. No. No. So, it's a so it's a no. That's what I get for trying to be funny and recreating a meme. Is there any chemistry? Any spark? No. That's like the goat forever. But no, the sparks are only in in the basketball realm. That's it. How can I help you? Is that No. Oh, not those like I got I I was like really trying to be funny and recreate that meme and that's what I get.

So, we we're shutting it down. Thank you. Thank you. It is not official. No, it's just hoops and and he's baby marriage to the game. So there it is. She says no, not dating. It doesn't look like you're buying it. You would have thought Jake, our camera guy, was Dane Cook with the way she was laughing at that response. I know. I'm trying to dissect this I don't think Jake believed her either.

But yeah, well the thing is if you look at the actual Instagram story where she's doing her fake jump shot saying shooters only. I don't know what's funny about this. And I think I have a pretty good sense of humor, Liz. I think she knew what she was doing. And maybe it was maybe a soft launch of sorts or or maybe a way of testing the waters uh to see, you know, if people would be uh accepting and receptive to it. Um regardless, I mean, she is adamant in in public saying no, they are not a thing. But I do believe a lot of the fans of especially basketball, they want to see Kevin Durant. Um, you know, get booed up with somebody. And Liz Cambage is a perfect uh match for Kevin if you ask me. I mean, as someone who is so like in love with basketball, I feel like a fellow Hooper would be perfect. That would be perfect for him. Are you buying this answer, Mojo, or do you think this could actually still be a thing that that they are dating each other? You know what, Babcock? I'm buying the answer because I'm not so sure that she definitively shut the door for the future.

Maybe they're investigating this situation right now, Babcock. But I could easily see this thing being a real thing down the line. To Lucas's point, she was laughing extremely hard. I mean, there was some kind of emotion behind that response. What that is, can't tell you exactly just yet. And I got to say, I disagree with her in the point, too, that uh shooting a jump shot at a Drake concert, that's a fantastic way to announce a relationship. I mean, what what else are you going to do? You going to flip your Facebook status to end a relationship or it's complicated or whatever that route goes.

Are you going to share some cheesy picture on Instagram like everybody else? I mean, you got to break the news originally these days. I would have been all for that. All right, so there it is. So, they they she says, "No, we're not." Not so sure. Still might be dating. I agree though. I think they would be a fantastic couple. I I hope it's true. Um we'll see. We will continue to follow it. Uh we are out of time. Have a great night. We'll see you tomorrow. Live shot in two minutes. She's almost 6' 6. Got to go from live to live. Katie's what? 16. I knew I didn't have much time. I was looking at the clock. Katie 17. 7 foot. Katie is he lifts himself at 16, right? Yeah. High heels. She'll be just as tall as you as it's a Drake concert. Emotions are there, you know, like there's a lot of romantic songs, you know.

Mhm. Perfect. Marvin's room comes on and maybe KD's like, "You know what? I was thinking passion." Yeah. Marvin's room. Wow. Slide by you, Keith. You want somebody who can take you to the halls. Lucas, somebody in the chat asked earlier who your goat Cleveland Browns player is. Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett. Yep. Easily. Easily. Good job. I mean, I I was too young for Bernie co-star. I appreciate what he was able to do with the Browns, but um I mean, if we're talking since I became a fan, it's by already to go from since I was born or since I was able to comprehend what football was. Interesting. Yeah. Not the Sean Kaiser or is that No, you want Cody Kesler. You want him? Um, for like entertainment value and purposes, Johnny Manzel. I mean, every day there was something that Johnny football that was an absolute time, you know, when he was out with concussion and he went all the way to I'm I was talking new era like since so like since I became a fan and Oh, well, in that case, yeah.

So, I'm I was born in '92. um when they came back in 99 that's when I like picked things up. It's like if we're talking the entire history of the Browns. Yeah. I mean Jim Brown is makes an argument for one of the best players in NFL history. So easily easily uh the greatest Brown of all time. Okay. Um he won several championships before the Super Bowl was a thing, the Super Bowl era. Yes. Do you think Jim Brown measures up to the are is him and Bo Jackson on the same pedestal? You think? I don't know.

I mean, I haven't really done too much of What do you think, Bo Joe? Thought or comparison. Jim Brown and Bo Jackson. Damn, dude. He said, I don't know. That's a tough one. That is a tough one. I don't know. I don't even know how to respond to that question. Why is my heart leaning towards Jim Brown? I don't know, buddy. I just saw that Bow Nose uh documentary. He's a freak of nature, man. That five was like what an athlete he was, man. What was what was the injury that took him out? Yeah, I got it. Hip. Yeah. I think you're right. It was um but yeah, th those Johnny Manzel days. I mean, I even got to experience some of that when I was working here, but Oh, Johnny. I mean, just like the the money phone, the trip to Vegas. Um, yeah, there was never a dull moment. And it was really interesting because like when we drafted him, I did laps around my house. I was really excited.

I'm like, we got the guy. We got the guy. Who did the Cowboys take when they passed on him? Oh, dude. Remember they were like, "Cowboys are going to take Johnny Mensel. They need a quarterback. They need a quarterback." Yeah. Who did they take? They took was it Frederick? Zack Martin. Zack Martin. Martin. Hall of Famer. And Zach Martin was a great pick for them. Yeah. Um I wish Johnny Manzel got another shot. I did too. I think he was. You know what? I think I'm good on that. Really? I would love to see every shot possible. Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield did. Here's here's the thing about Johnny Manzel though. No, Baker Mayfield tried. You know, he cares about the sport. Johnny Mandel did not give a damn about football. He he just wanted to party and have fun and he admitted that and he uh I love his like crusade against Cleveland like Cleveland was the problem. He could have been in Los Angeles. He could have been in Dallas.

He could have been anywhere. Uh the other 31 teams in the NFL, he would have absolutely failed. Yeah. No, you're right. But he he put blames Cleveland for everything. No. Well, your coaches didn't help. Yeah. Yeah. Come on. Why would they help? He he doesn't know the job never entire existence for it's a two-way relationship is it if you say okay we're going to do this today and he's like I'm not going to do that and they're like okay well if you don't want to be here then whatever you know we're going to believe that there are some coaches that probably could have kept him in line at the time was just zero tolerance for him and that was it I think if it happened like this he was on a short leash for yeah if it happened to this day like right now then I think he would still be in the NFL.

I Yeah, I agree. Mojo, who's your I think with the right coaching, he probably could have uh figured it out and straightened up. Oh gosh, Mojo, that's teasing right here. So, Edward and Mojo are going to talk a little tush push. Hold on. Oh, we got another one. Bring it on. Edward, you'll welcome back and then you'll toss to the sound and then Mojo will react. Okay, Mojo, you ready? We had another seg today. Let me give him a little lift. Welcome back to Team Z Sports, right? Okay. You going to walk to You're going to walk to Mojo, right? Sure, I suppose. Yeah. You want me to do that? Okay. Okay. Welcome back to TMZ Sports. The Broncos travel to Philadelphia this week for their latest matchup, which of course means they're going to be facing the tush push. Uh Shawn Peyton, the coach of Denver, is one of the most outspoken coaches in the league.

So, everybody wanted to know what is his thoughts on the tush push as he goes as he gets ready to go up against it this weekend. And I think his response might interest you a little bit, Mojo. Listen to this. Yeah, listen. I I'm I'm I was one uh that stood up in favor of The reason I stood up in favor of is is pretty simple. if if if the powers to beat don't want it for aesthetic reasons or competitive reason I you know or it's hard to officiate etc. But I I've been involved in those meetings for a long time and when all of a sudden health and safety was pulled into that which which might be the safest play in football um my [ __ ] nose kind of went up. Um, and so look, it's a quarterback sneak and and I think credit Philadelphia looks at it, you know, as long as the line of scrimmage is clean that uh it's a it's a it's a well-run quarterback sneak.

And um and when you really evaluate it, um it's more the technique of the sneak than the push. So Mojo, there you have it. He doesn't have a problem with it. or maybe he does per se, but he does he has a problem with people calling it maybe a safety issue. What's your take on this? Do you think Shauna is right or or do you think this little gamesmanship going into the game? Well, I don't think it's gamesmanship because he's been outspoken about this for a while, right? It's not like he's changing his tune the second he actually has to go up against it.

But as as you know, buddy, I played nose guard in football collegiately in the NFL. So, the other guy on the other side of that ball for the tush push used to be me, and we used to practice extensively getting down in that unbelievably low four-point stance and trying to get underneath the center uh to stop any momentum so the linebackers could come over top and make the play. I I got to say, I mean, look, injuries can happen with that many people jumping on you.

They land on a shoulder, they land on a finger. Who knows what's going on under the pile if someone's trying to play dirty, but for the play itself, it was a very safe play. I never felt like I was going to get injured um during, you know, a scrum like that cuz that's essentially what it is. So, I I I'll give him that. To be honest with you, the only thing I ever used to get a little worried about was running out of oxygen on the bottom of the pile with a dozen bodies over top of me. And it's the fourth quarter and I'm exhausted. I'm breathing heavy already. and now I have like no air flow. That was the only thing I ever really worried about with a play like that. But I mean, the Eagles have demonstrated that they can do this unbelievably well.

The rest of the league is I mean, for some of them, they're just straight up jealous that they haven't been able to replicate it like this. But just because he does don't like it doesn't mean you go out there and you try to ban it and make it illegal. I know some coaches, GMs, owners will absolutely do just that.

But I love that coach Shawn here is is not he's standing up for it. That being said, they're probably going to get torched with the tush push all weekend. Uh, but I love that he probably already knows that and he's still standing up for it either way. Yeah, I was going to say, Mojo, the game kicks off at 10:00 a.m. I got to imagine there's going to be plenty of tush pushes in the contest and we'll wait to see if his opinion changes after I'm sure they run them pretty successfully during the game. Stay tuned. Yeah, Mojo, I I don't uh I I I don't think it's about safety. I think it's the argument should be about officiating. Uh it's an impossible play to officiate. Like you see, I'm sure you've seen Mojo like the the guards jump every time the center is his head is over the ball and they just don't officiate it properly. I think that's more of the reason to get rid of it. So I'm I'm with Shauna here that it's not about injuries.

Clean it up and actually start throwing flags. That's what I mean. But but they can't because this it's so simultaneous when the guards jump and and how far is his head over the ball. Like they really just need to make a rule where like the center has to be behind the ball. Like uh uh that's got to be the they got to redefine the line of scrimmage. Then you can have your tush push all you want because then like the ball is in front and now okay he's really got to go as far as he got to go. But that now you're talking about an adjustment, not banning the play, which is absolutely fair. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm with Peyton.

The the the the health issue is such BS. Like nobody's gotten hurt during the tush. Like Well, you know what, guys? Now that we got this really cool new live model that we're taking advantage of and we're trying to find new ways to make this thing more efficient. I see some open area right there in the sports section and I see multiple human beings. Why don't we just do one now? I was a tush.

Who's getting the push? I was a great obviously the quarterback. I was a center because of the hair more than anything. So what is it? It's like form forming up in the back. Yeah. the running back. Get Lucas. Go get No, let's do let's do I would love to see Lucas and Ed in an Oklahoma drill. Let's do it right now. Like Am I the Am I the Who's the ball car? You could whatever. Either way, I just want to see you guys right there. Let's go. Oh, yeah. Here's like my job. Violence stuff. I like my job too much. And Ed doesn't want that. Oh, really? I don't want that. You Lucas, you kind of you kind of got like a skinned scatoo body. Lucas said, "Bring the pain." New body. He's just going to be short and thick.

It was a Lucas said, "Bring the paint." A literal compliment. Cam Academy has the worst body on the Giants. It was a compliment. Hey, here's a hot take. Charles play football. Oh, okay. Bring the Bang. You got to lay down and you got to get up. Here's bring it. Like I also have a a switch that I can flip and I just go we've already we've psycho. Yeah, we know. He doesn't know when to stop. Oh, he would just I I'd know when to stop. Chill. Connor would um he would play. He would Conor Connor and I mean because you keep talking about my weight so much. You'd be keep saying all these little comments left and right.

I didn't say any comments. You made so many comments called you. You made all the comments. Every comment that you could possibly make, you have made it. Well, we were talking about Oh, you're like, "Oh, I'm so much stronger than you." And I'm like, "Yeah, for MMA, maybe MMA going out." I say you guys just settled this right here. I agree. Octagon. Like, if we were to arm wrestle, Ed would be like, "Well, you weigh 50 pounds more than me." That's true.

Yeah. and did say earlier today or yesterday that he was stronger than Lucas, but then he did add pound for pound. I mean, can you wheel one of these little things out there and put a little a little arm wrestle, which again, it's not it's not I am so scarred by seeing people break their arms wrestling. Can you imagine that? That I I can't I can't see a broken bone. I'm not I'm not good with broken bones. You're going out of your way to look at that footage, aren't you, from like YouTube and stuff? Yeah. You you watch a lion versus a tiger or like a a bunny rabbit versus a I know.

No, I do. I do love I've got a weird fascination with like wild animal videos. Oh, I like it. Yeah. What's your favorite type of wild animal videos? My favorite kind of I mean I I love you know I I I really like lions a lot. Okay. So I've watched a lot of I watch my fair share of lions hunting. It's I again it's it's nature. I I'm just visualizing seeing you in your living room just like that's what I do. I literally just with the with the two iPad. Oh, I just don't understand why the brothers fight each other. It's brutal. The weapon when the brothers fight each other. It's like they live scars like mans to fight the the the you know the u you know the male he will kick his sons out of the pride because they will begin to challenge him.

So he kicked their own sons out. That's Chris. It's a It's a nature is brutal, but I Yeah, I uh I have to turn those things off sometimes. Sometimes they get a little bit too much. What's your goal for the rest of the month, Babcock? Goal for the rest of the month. Yeah, October. It's the full It's first month. Oh, man. Um party more. Yeah, there we go. I was going to say it would not be party more. It would just be a party. Celebrate Halloween and get a good costume. Yeah. Got to figure out my Halloween costume.

That's tough. The chat starts out. I need someone to help out. We should do a Halloween. It was Halloween. Halloween's a Friday, I think. Uh sport costume. little uh.